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Hey Josh, I'm one of your SongOS beta testers. New lesson wise, things have been pretty quiet there for the last few months. Are you still working on it?

I think that will probably the best way to teach your modern song learning process, once it's completed.

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Hey Tom!

Haha, yes I’ve started over from scratch a few times. Think I’ve finally got the right approach. I’ve been uploading new lessons, but haven’t cleared the old ones out yet. Stay tuned!

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Glad to hear it. I can't run Abelton, because I'm too firmly embedded in iPadWorld (though Logic may be an option once I replace my archaic 1st gen iPad Pro).

But I have been able to get a lot of the benefits of your approach using Moises.

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I got a 50% discount on Ableton Intro because I work as a school teacher! What a win!

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Let me know how it goes for you!

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Moises keeps getting better and better.

The latest version automatically detects tempo, and identifies and labels sections. It's probably about 90% accurate, but allows you to edit the section names if you want. You can also loop individual sections.

I've been playing with Logic Pro 2 on my new iPad. It's far more work than Moises.

On the plus side, Logic gives you much more control. It also forces you to use your ears to identify the sections, which I think is a big part of why this technique works. For example, I find I have to really think about exactly which bar is the start of the section, and how that lines up with the vocals. I'm sure this will really help me develop my ear.

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Hiya Josh. Can this Abelton technique been done on other DAWs (perhaps Reaper) or is the labeling capability and BPM capability unique to Abelton? (Also a Beta tester here)

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AFAIK, Ableton & Logic are the only DAWs that can follow tempo (without needing a pricey third party plugin).

(All DAWs can do the label thing though.)

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Scott...maybe you could manually set the project tempo to match the song, but I suspect it would be tedious and frustrating.

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Thanks Tom!

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